Tayler and Jared are announcing a new site that aggregates deaf blogs much in the same way DeafRead does. But there are differences.
- The blogs will focus on sign languages and Deaf culture
- Instead of moderating posts, all posts will be published from selected blogs
- A panel of 3 persons will select the blogs
Goal of DeafRead
DeafRead aims to grow into a valuable resource on the Internet where it has a reputation for impartiality in regards to deaf issues. Visitors with searching agendas or researchers must be able to instantly recognize that DeafRead is a place they can go to reliable find all sides of an issue and be able to see the whole picture. If a site only promotes the positive aspects of one side, it becomes suspect and the reputation declines somewhat. Showing all sides and opinions are of paramount importance to DeafRead.
It’s often a white and black worlds of difference between ASL/BiBi and CI/AVT. DeafRead must operate in the grey area between these two worlds. DeafRead brings these two camps together on the same page and enables information sharing. We have a feverish hope that in the future the chasm between these two camps will be narrowed and some bridges built across.
We are blessed to have Carrie, JJ, Amy, and Elizabeth as our human editors. They are the beating heart of DeafRead. They have been battle-tested and gained the wisdom to be able to keep DeafRead running. The editors are charged with the task of staying neutral and approving deaf-related posts. They have done an admirable job and we have full confidence in them.
Goal of DeafSide
For those of you who know Tayler and I, we are actively involved with the sign language community and not only do we cherish but we revere the sign language community. We have been signing all our lives and have zero speech abilities beyond few swear words. 
ASL has has deeply enriched our lives in many ways. Why else would we give up many hours to contribute websites to the Deaf community as well as making sure the websites are executed well? *hint* it’s not for the money.
We understand the need for a safe harbor for the cultural and linguistic minority. DeafSide will not be a place for vblogs with a lukewarm reception to ASL. The vbloggers will unabashedly support ASL and other signing languages and have a strong Deaf cultural center. DeafSide will provide a protected area to help all signing languages thrive and encourage positive discussions among the signing Deaf.
Because the purposes of DeafRead and DeafSide are different and incompatible, DeafSide will be developed and launched as a separate site. DeafRead will be a “all-purpose” deaf aggregator, while DeafSide will be an “ASL-only” aggregator. The posts from DeafSide will be fed directly into DeafRead for wider distribution and to further strengthen the position of sign languages.
Because DeafSide will be a place of blogs that are known to promote and celebrate sign languages, the site will approve vbloggers meeting certain requirements. A panel of three people will make sure that ASL and other sign languages get their due: they will have the power to decide which blogs can get on DeafSide. While DeafRead and DeafSide will be on a parallel development path, Tayler and I will not have any say on which content shows up at DeafSide, that final decision will be left up to the panel of three.
Anyone that is interested in being on this panel, e-mail Tayler by 8:00pm PST on Sunday April 27. The community will have the opportunity to vote on who forms the panel.
The website, DeafSide, will launch on Monday May 12.
Tayler and Jared
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Very, Very, Nice!
Kudos to all of you at DeafRead.
*chuckles* I have to say this is quite of an ingenious move. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with this new aggregator.
This is great news for ASL users. Good move Tayler and his buddies.
An interested person has contacted me to be on the panel.
Be sure to contact me if you’re interested!
Can’t wait to see it! Very interesting!
Are you trying to isolate the ASL/Deaf Culture members? Or are you trying to divide and conquer?
Good comment, Think.
The ASL members asked for a safe harbor and we recognize their need. We are providing a service, just we do at DeafRead.
Interesting. I am curious what would Deaf people do to DeafSide.
Shrewd political move
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I like the idea actually. It can help people who only want to escape into supportive atmosphere after a hard day.
I feel that DeafRead is more for people who are willing to debate intelligently with each other. DeafSide can help people who are NOT willing to debate but rather to relax into enjoyment of Deaf culture and its supreme langauge, signed language!
I mean “What would Deaf people do to DeafSide?” I meant to say What DeafSide looks like when it launches on May 12. I am wondering it is better for Deaf communities. And how many people would post there? Would it more than Deafvideo.tv? I am looking forward to seeing DeafSide to be successful.
Interesting how they asked for a safe harbor. It is like a hate crime out there.
Think
Ci/AVT can set up their own webite/blog whatever. Why they have to come in deafread and brag about their speech/hearing/speaking ? who cares about that?
not moderated but selected blog based on what criteria? person who is part of deaf culture or just deaf and asl person only or deaf and asl topic? what if a C.I. uses asl and has best of both worlds? Burning question is how does one get to be labeled or how does a vblog get to be labeled? very complicated especially if its not going to be moderated. As I understand it some blogs by a deaf asl person do cover all topics imaginable, where does that blog fall into?
Vbloggers that cover various topics can easily start a new blog that is designed for DeafSide.
Tayler,
While I think it is a good idea to designate a place where the culturally Deaf and users of ASL can share their stories and ideas, I also feel like we are giving up to those who do not identify with D or ASL.
To say it more simply, we lose DeafRead to them so that they may continue to propogandize the site.
Didn’t they want a hearing life?
What other reason would they have to come on a Deaf centric aggregator?
Wasn’t DeafRead intended to be for the Deaf Community?
Is DeafSide the place where Deaf people get put aside?
Why wasn’t a site designed for them instead of us, like perhaps HooSide?
Questions Questions Questions…
All in All,..I hope we can finally have a place for everyone to go to without people having to impose hooness on our culture.
Again, kudos to all of you for looking at the possibilities and solutions to the controversies we face everyday.
Thanks
a smart move! deafside people can discuss things intelligently without being interrupted by ignorant people who do irressponsible research.
How fascinating! I’m very curious to see how DeafSide works and whether it splits the current/total DeafRead readership into two, or if it strengthens everything overall.
i have a question for tayler. can vloggers and bloggers quit deafread completely and become members of deafside only? that way their vlogs and blogs won’t show up for deafread. some vloggers and bloggers would prefer limiting their vlogs or blogs to deafside audience only. some deaf people are already excited about the idea.
i’m disappointed you chose to perpetuate the myth of associating CI with AVT – not all CI users are AVT proponents- we can see that clearly with the new ASL-CI community blog. Likewise, not all ASL users are BiBi proponents.
Final question, if an ASL/CI blog/vlog is posted, where will you put it?
Interesting…I wish that DeafRead is for ASL /Bi Bi only and you can add “CI/AVT Side” because when you want to add DeafSide you made it sounds like we are irrelevant Deaf group from the community. I can’t think of a better word here. Your hope is that ASL/BiBi and CI/AVT will bridge together. Tayler! You know AVT centers will never add ASL in their curriculum to teach CI toddlers and children to learn for communication and learning. You know what their mission is. Hamas and Jewish can’t work together because Hamas wants Jerusalem to be part of their state which it will never happen because we are making sure not to let Jewish surrender ever again because the bible believer like me knows that God has made a covenant with Abraham that Israel belongs to Jewish people. Hamas wants to wipe out Jewish people…their language, religion and culture. I see this same path that AVT want to do with to us…to remove ASL. Another thing is that I am quite surprise that you and human editors are allowing researchers to get information what they want to find from DeafRead. To me it is like you are allowing researchers to collect myths and misinformed information about our ASL and community. It is like we are going through circle over and over. That is why many deaf children are abused for hundred of years because we do not put in full brake and stop allowing myths information come out. You and I probably think differently here. Please be sure to know that I am not here to bash you or Jared but to give you my opinion. I am anxious to see what others think about this. Thank you.
All good questions.
We expected this.
Answers to some of these…
“Wasn’t DeafRead intended to be for the Deaf Community?”
It was intended for the deaf community. We do not have the expertise nor authority to determine who is deaf and who is not deaf. Read a good discussion on this.
“can vloggers and bloggers quit deafread completely and become members of deafside only?”
Any blog can quit DeafRead or DeafSide. However as Jared beautifully put: “The posts from DeafSide will be fed directly into DeafRead for wider distribution and to further strengthen the position of sign languages.” But of course it is ultimately up to the blogger.
“Final question, if an ASL/CI blog/vlog is posted, where will you put it?”
Again that relates to Jeffrey’s “Wasn’t DeafRead intended to be for the Deaf Community?” question. We are not in a position to determine to which group ASL/CI blog/vlog belongs. However, for DeafSide, this will be decided by the 3 person panel. You’ll vote for who is on the panel.
Finally, remember if DeafSide does not satisfy your needs, there is DeafRead. And if DeafRead (as it is) does not satisfy your needs, there is DeafRead Custom.
It is a bit early for policy-making because some of them will be decided by the panel. You have influence over DeafSide’s future by voting who is on the panel, and your communications with these panel members. Or, if you like, you can be a panelist.
Segregation at its finest!!!!!
To jeffrey, many strong culturally deaf people do not give a HOO about D or d. that should never be used as a criteria.
tayler, if a vlogger does not want his posts from deafside be fed directly into deafread for wider distribution, is it possible? i am not clear from your answer .
raychelle, won’t be deafread enough for the asl-ci community? you said you are not the one who set up the blog, but you kept on acting like you did. let them figure out what to do.
the asl ci community can have the deafread. let nonci people have deafside.
i hope we vote for good people on panel.
Susan, sorry if I wasn’t clear the first time. Yes, any blog can elect to be on DeafSide, and not on DeafRead. However, anyone will be able to visit DeafSide and make comments on the linked blogs. That is the beauty of the web.
Tayler –
I *have* to say that I agree with Candy at 10:04 AM and 12:20 PM.
Will the sponsor, the sprint support this proposal? Of course not.
You have a lot to think about.
Raychelle,
No, your “ASL/CI” vlogs and blogs NOT about ASL! All about CI CI CI CI, sign through ASL that all.
You not talk about ASL rule, grammar, classifiers, linguistic, storytell, etc.- nothing about ASL. You just use ASL that all. You talk all about CI CI CI CI, want “earlier, better” all Deaf CI CI CI CI, more important than ASL.
Stay in DeafRead, leave DeafSide, Tayler, and Jared alone. They work hard try find way.
that is good to know that deafside posts do not have to go to deafread if vloggers and bloggers do not want them to and bloggers and vloggers can moderate comments on their vlogs and blogs on deafside. thanks for clearing up on this.
“The posts from DeafSide will be fed directly into DeafRead for wider distribution and to further strengthen the position of sign languages.”
Emphasis on “Strengthen the position of sign languages.”
And the crowd roars!
*handwaves*
Point Made.
Candy, It doesn’t mean we will reject users of ASL who have a C.I. , what it means is that DeafSide will be a place where we can celebrate our language and culture without the interference of the cochlear implant issues and hearing ideals.
Our daily lives involve the hearing world and that is a given.
I imagine DeafSide could be a place where we grow and learn more about, as eloquently stated, sign languages.
I may speak for myself but I’m certain there are many people who are sick and tired of seeing I’s.
Implant this.
Implant that.
Hey, that encroaches on Deaf Being.
*FINISH*
If people want to talk about Cochlear Implants, they’ve got DeafRead.
Fair Enough?
I support the concept of DeafSide; however, the term itself Deafside is not a good one. It seems negative and implies that the group is more isloated and further from the whole community. Also the term seems more confusing. It is hard to sign Deaf+side. I suggest a better term, ASLcentric that would be more suitable. That includes BOTH hearing and Deaf people who support ASL. and BiBi.
Nita,
We wanted ASLView.com (which is taken by the way) but in the end decided not to have “ASL” in the domain name because we support all sign languages, not just ASL.
A lot of domain names are taken, and we prefer names that are short, easy to remember and to spell.
Tayler-
I thought linguistics recognized and accepted that ASL is a language. I did not see linguistics them recognize sign language other than ASL as a true language. Are you saying that you and human editors recognize SEE and other sign language…I can’t think of what are true language? I am getting dizzy here.
forget the word “them” and “as”. I typed too fast. Thanks.
An example of another sign language is BSL.
SEE isn’t a language.
Here’ a proof! It doesn’t matter when, where, who, what, or why, we who wanted a place dedicated to ASL and Deaf culture will never have place of our own. Some commenters above already call those people segregatists. It is more appalling when I do not see them say AGB supporters that they are segregatists as well. In my view, DeafRead is already very broad and include all kinds of Deaf people as if they have won the battle. So be it.
Tayler and others thought to give it a chance to have a place of their own where they can feel safe and good when browsing DeafSide and some of you already label us. Where can we go? I wonder.
It will be interesting how this will turn out.
How about isolating CI/AVT people into the other view. I think they would pull more audience who are “dreamers” or “nobody.” They don’t know who they are talking to. For these ASL/DeafRead members, they KNOW who they are talking to since they are in the community. CI/AVT are complete new animals in the community and being manipulative because they have no idea what they are made of.
STAY DEAFREAD FOR THE ASL/ISL/DEAF SOCIETY – ISOLATE CI/AVT/DREAMERS!
how about deafbeing.com?
Thanks for answering my question regarding other sign languages you were referring to. I have another question for you. I am sorry that DeafRead always gets me very emotional, smile. Are you and Jared taking consideration to create CI/AVT Side instead of DeafSide or are you and Jared have made a final decision to create DeafSide? Just wondering. Thanks again.
“Berke Outspoken” wrote about DeafSide
Think carefully before what you are going to do. I think this kind of change would dampen the DeafRead – and probably put CI/AVT aside for these dreamers and hopefuls – depressed people. ASL is full of rich, joy and “HOME”. Those who are not part of the ASL/Deaf Culture, they deal with batteries, repairs, parrotizing, and getting recognition from nobody. They praise them for trying too hard. People using ASL are being themselves like everyone else except a few dreamers out there.
Tayler- I am sorry that you agreed with Berke. When mickey mouse ear phones were invented and forced Deaf children to use them in classrooms…NO ONE SPOKE OUT…when hearing aides were invented…many deaf children like me were uncomfortable using them…NO ONE SPOKE OUT. When cochlear implant was invented…Drs encouraged parents to FORCE (NOT ENCOURAGED, PLEASE REMEMBER THIS) their Deaf babies and children to get cochlear implant…NO ONE SPOKE OUT. Now Deafread accepts and apparently RESPECTs myths and illusions information about CI/AVT…Tayler, are you scared what this will affect to many many and many Deaf children in the future? I am scared! I guess there is nothing we can do about this except I pray that God will send someone to design ASL site with truth and facts information so all Deaf babies can have rights. When my former Professor who is also a Judge and I went back and forth on some issues he always told me that Life is unfair but I always tell him that we can make things right. It is all up to us.
Penny, where did I say I agreed with Berke? If you read her post, you’ll see that she disagrees with DeafSide
And be careful – we do not accept what you say we accept. DeafRead is neutral. Do not put words in our mouth and tell us what we accept, respect and believe. Read this: “DeafRead does not endorse any of the blogs by the mere act of publishing.” That statement has been on DeafRead for the longest time.
Your comment reads as if you forget we’re releasing DeafSide.
Tayler-
I did not realize that you and human editors are neutral about Deaf issues. I always thought you and others are seeking for facts only. Ok I will not put words into your mouth from now on because now I know exactly where you and others are standing. About Berke…I re read again…the impression I got from her that she did not want you to create DeafSide but to allow ASL to be in the same site with other myths and illusions information about Deaf children, ASL and culture. Now I rest this case and let others share their ideas with you. However, thank you for accepting my comments and reply my messages too. I appreciate it.
Those who want Tayler/Jared to isolate the CI/AVT blogs miss the point. Deafread is for EVERY blog related to deaf issues, be it Deaf culture or technology related to deafness and so forth. The so-called ASL community and select b/vloggers have repeatedly complained that they wanted a place to call their own, where they do not have to share their forum with “outsiders”. Tayler and Jaredare NOT trying to isolate them, they are merely trying to respect their wishes.
Let them be in peace. Those who are willing to learn, promote, and support this socio-lingusitic culture who cherish and values ASL and the communities behind them is welcome to DeafSide. People can be tired of explaining and fighting to prove a point. There are plenty other forums or options (external sites too) to choose from to promote your reality, IMO. Let them be in peace.
Hmm, a good move but I do not like the name DeafSide because “Side” indicates the Deaf is on the side…not as important as the others. There suggest to call it DeafCenter or similar because all those Deaf who embrace sign language as the core of their lives are generally Deaf-centered.
Seems to be a bit of a cyclic repetition here.
I can understand our discomfort with the growing presence of CI advocates. But at the same time, it seems by creating DeafSide, we’re leetting them win.
Here’s my point. At least with DeafRead, everything was in one place pretty much. Curious people from outside our community could visit DeafRead.com. In fact, when I encounter hearing people, I tell them, want to learn more… Go to DeafRead.
Now, think about this. We consider it a threat and an abuse for hearing parents to force cochlear implants upon their children. But they’re not really committing a crime of abuse, they’re committing a crime of ignorance. They don’t know where to find proper information and they rely on limited sources of information.
Namely, their doctors, CI advocates, AGBell, etc.
At least with DeafRead, they come to one place, see CI articles, but also happen to see ASL articles, Deaf Culture articles, Deaf way of life, etc. Things they wouldn’t normally have thought to look for. When a hearing parent finds out about their child is Deaf, they google for medical solutions, not cultural solutions. How nice it is when searching for such solutions, they stumble across cultural solutions and become enriched in learning the value of the existence of a Deaf Community and the pride and feeling of self-worth such a community offers to their recently diagnosed child when previously they felt lost.
The moral of the story is, if we ASL’ers want to strengthen our position, it is not by moving to a different location but by increasing our own visibility within a common area. How else can we achieve success and true triumph of Deaf Culture in this vast, diverse planet we call Earth?
There is a place where Language advocacy like to come together and discuss about language, communication reality and how to overcome deprivation of their language since 1880. Let’s respect them and understand why they do not want to see more deaf babies and children in school to have the same experience.
And there is a place where Auditory advocacy like to come together and discuss about hearing, auditory reality. It is their business to express themselves how well they can hear and need a place to be on their own if not invaded other playground expressing disrespect to others.
It is all about ATTITUDE and respect of others…whatever it takes.
This strikes me as a “stick your head in the sand” mentality, and will only serve to further add to discrimination WITHIN an already discriminated minority. Sad.
I vote for Ridor to be one of three persons in the DeafSide panel! (Chuckling)
Penny, If you are going to compare cases of oppression, myths and stories, then you need to be sure of your facts before you do.
I am an Arab, who supports the Jewish people’s right to live in peace and safety, but I do not support the state of Israel.
Your comment about Israel is offensive to people who have been kicked out of Palestine, and their homes, because some racist Zionists ideology about Jewish supremacy and entitlement.
I get some first hand accounts of the occupation, from family and friends!
You need to get your nose of out of the Bible and into some real world history, to understand the whole problem of the region, and understand that the people who lived their throughout history, all are guilty of bad things, and yes, that includes the Jews themselves.
But for what it’s worth, I do support a Deaf Only blog aggregator. I will be blogging on this topic soon.
Read the announcement and comments with much interest. I only have one thought: Give DeafSide a chance and see how things go rather than arguing whether they are separating from other groups. Just allow them to do their thing and we will learn new things – just like we learned about DeafRead.
I agree with Liz B (and other commenters above) that DeafSide sounded like if they are not as important as others.
Someone suggested DeafCenter. I think it will be a perfect name. I checked and deafcenter is not available, BUT deafcentered.com is !!! It feels more Deaf! Please listen to the community. The majority does not like DeafSide. DeafCentered is easy to remember.
DEAFCENTERED.COM !!!! Let’s vote for it. We can sign DEAF-CENTER.
White Ghost in its (apology to White Ghost for not remembering its gender) comment dated April 25, 2008 at 12:56pm raised a good point on whether Sprint Relay will sponsor the new aggregator DeafSide. Can you give an answer to the question?
I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, it is a nice central place for topics relating to ASL and natural signed languages. It is like a library that divides books and resources into categories so that the patrons can find a group of books and resources on a similar topic in one central place, rather than having them scattered throughout the library.
On the other hand, the primary motivation for setting up DeafSide seems to be driven by an ideology. I will grant that the ideology is not stated explicitly anywhere in the blog entry but the goals for DeafSide seem to encourage or border on exclusivism, that is, to exclude those who do not fit the ideology of purism of ASL and other natural signed languages. As some commentators stated, it encourages segregation.
As I stated, I have mixed feelings on this. I am trying to put DeafSide in the best light through the analogy of library but the primary motivation for DeafSide just does not jibe with it.
Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com
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how about deaf-court? you know in mall most of times called food court? court is other mean of group or area, in way i can think of area where deaf is so… deaf-court or deafcourt? is it available in domain? what do you think?
or asl-court? aslcourt? i just pop up…
I wholeheartedly and completely agree with Liz B. The term,
“DeafSIDE” — in my opinion — marginalises THE DEAF WAY.
DeafSIDE means 1/100% of The Deaf Way.
International Deaf Way is fine.
Deaf Center is fine.
DeafSide — unacceptable.
This is a clear example of a blog system hijacked by the extremists.
This paves the way to the balkanization of the deaf community.
Richard
No one’s mentioned DeafRead’s new feature, DeafRead Custom? Me puzzled.
I did try DeafRead Custom, but it did not work. Jared suggested that
I go to Tools to enable cookies. I did follow accordingly, but still to no avail.
Off on the tangent, I thought that blogs and vlogs that were not in regard to deaf-related issues would go directly to DeafEXTRA.
For what it’s worth, when I look at the name “DeafSide”, I am reminded of fireside. Fireside has many nice, positive connotations. Also, it reminds me of the movie “West Side Story” where “West Side” means an area in New York City. In parallel, DeafSide means an area in the world of communication that focuses on Deaf.
I can understand how some view DeafSide as a discourse of lesser importance because it is delegated to a side (of DeafRead, I presume). But, this is not the only view shared by people.
Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com
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Deaf Custom is a joke! We prefer DeafCenter! That is why we are not discussing Deaf Custom! Let’s do DeafCenter.
JD, why is DeafRead Custom a joke? Please explain. I’m interested in knowing. Thanks.
PAH!
look forward to ur unleashing the new aggregator
i agree with joey baer – we r all learning and growing and i totally appreciate everything DeafRead has been undertaking
no easy case – im sure years down the road folks will analyze how DeafRead was critical in fostering knowledge, power, collective consciousness and social justice. This new aggregator has the promise of being a site of non-colonialism – this is HUGELY important. this may emerge as a new PILLAR of Deafhood – an digital one but a very far reaching and powerful one. BY having a space / place to cultivate, perculate, ferment ideas about the Deaf experience – i suspect much positive Deafhood creativity will be unleased in the forms of short films, Sign Lang. lit, Deaf lit, visual art and more
i commend u for ur communal process – announcing this new aggregator and seeking out input from ur readership
i think ur plan is very wise and i thank u
re: the name – Deafside – i understand folks comments. i especially like the concept of taking a name from Sign Langauge first as this will show the Deaf centered focus of ur new aggregator. Deafside i assume was first conceived when thinking in English. Nothing wrong with English but i assume Deafread originated in this fashion as have most Deaf organizations and groups names – English first then how do we sign it. Been there done that. I really like when folks break the mold and think in ASL first (or the SL of their countries)
so maybe ur team can talk and just see what word keeps popping up when u sign about this new aggregator – ur HANDS will tell u the answer
for me because im only reading the discussion in English and not seeing folks talk about it in ASL – (the video above says no longer available) perhaps some of the suggestions below might work
DEAFPAH
DEAFTHAT
DEAFPLACE
DEAFSPACE
DEAFBEACON (COMING FROM THECONCEPTS IN THE SIGN OF LIGHTHOUSE / SEARCH LIGHT BUT CANT THINK OF THE BEST ASL WORD TO USE)
Thank u so much again for all u do
peace
patti durr
oh also
DEAFPOINT
reason why is in ASL sign DEAF with emphasis and the POINT to show the Deaf Centered focus
i love the sign for Deaf Center – have been seeing it lots and clever expressions of off center or bumping the center or missing the center – GREAT stuff but since someone said the domain name is taken and i fear Deafcentered might be a bit long and awkward to – type – perhaps Deafpoint will hit the mark
point will have several meanings:
- thats the focus and intent – the point of the new aggregator
- Deaf weren’t allowed to point when young – HA now have a place that encourages u to shout in SL
- point as in a place like Goughton Point, i believe some Alaskan sites have the word Point int heir name. – point signifies a geographic location in cyber space
- point conjures up the image of a hand / finger which will symbolize SL and Deaf folks –
- sign for Deaf is with index finger as is the sign for point so will flow in ASL well
- point as in guides the way – leads our pathy
- point as in goal – http://www.deafpoint.com will have a clear goal and focus
peace
p
boo
i just clicked the address of deafpoint.com AFTER i submitted the poihnt and now see it is already taken
NEVERMIND on that one
other idea – i just checked so they r not already taken phew!
Deafflagpole or just Deafflag
why flag – is cuz folks will often sign when staking a place for ourselves this inserting of a large flag – like the moon landing
just a thought
enough ideas from me eh
peace
p
peace
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Tayler, and Jared Thank you sooooo much!!!
this is very fair. DeafRead is more general and it mentions “Deaf,” so the CI and ASL users are not rejected.
DeafSide or DeafCenter is a wonderful idea. I am so excited!!!!!
I am tired of scrolling down DeafRead and searching. I look forward to this new site.
Ali
Hi all,
I want to add this… Theres plenty of groups within the African American community and it is the beauty of “freedom to choose,” so dont consider this something bad.
to those whom is CI supporters,
just get hint..
in case you still don’t, here it is.
SHUT the **** up, and leave us alone. Go on and celebrate your cyberborg’s lives on somewhere else…
Other hint,
Only IF you are so INTO ASL and have the desire to promote the Soul of ASL, you are most welcome… We just aren’t interested in loving CI (the implant itself). It is like RAID the pesticles substance that’d kills the Deaf community if we promote the sounds and the mapping. We will never reject any deaf people with CI. GET IT Dude?
DeafSide is an cause of RAID. We just had to re-colonize ourselves again so we all can enjoy the ASL. ONLY ASL ASL ASL (and those of the international sign languages!!!)
And NOTHING OF THE IMPLANTS, SOUNDS, AND THOSE KIND OF KINKIES ARE APPEALING TO US!
About time! Thank you, DR for coming to a right decision. I support DeafCenter. Tayler, how about letting the community or the three people on the panel vote on the name of the new site.
Hello Tayler,
Seems there are many strong feelings about the concept of DeafSide.
One thing I am wondering about: DeafSide will have a panel to select v/blogs, but no moderators. It would be helpful to know the rationale behind this decision. It would also be helpful to know more about the responsibilities of the panelists, such as whether or not they will develop guidelines for selection of v/blogs.
Thanks for clarifying.
Thank you for offering DeafRead Custom. It allows people to filter and read/view blogs/vlogs. It is a win-win strategy.
Patti, great suggestions for names for the new site!! These are even better.
Tayler and Jared,
THANK YOU!!!
I am so thrilled that you have found a solution. This is what we need – a safe home. I think this will encourage more bloggers and vloggers to feel safe and generate many more posts. The genius in this plan is the plan to feed those entries directly into DeafRead, which will make the whole thing more balanced. Handwaves!!!
Just a few thoughts about the name… I’m not fond of the name DeafSide at all. It implies that there is a war and people have to take sides. There’s no such situation here. DeafCenter is the best name (tho’ it’s taken), because it shows the concept accurately. Those of us who are centered in our collective values (signed languages, Deaf culture, the community) are all here. People who are not there yet are welcome to join us when they are ready.
A few suggestions for the name:
DeafCenter.info
DeafNexus.info (I saw DeafNexus.com once somewhere and I can’t remember whom or where I saw it, and DeafNexus.com is still taken, according to a Whois query even though there’s no website there.)
DeafCentered.com
DeafHeart.com
Best of luck with this new endeavor, and if there’s any way I can help, lemme know!
Hi Tayler and Jared,
this sounds like a good move for Deaf people who want to enjoy ASL and sign language.
Look forward to seeing what it is like. Thank you for the good work. Keep it up!
SusanA
You should leave the way DeafRead is. They can customize them. I think it is silly to aggerate them because people know what reading is. You can put the CI/AVT aside because they have their own group elsewhere.
Tayler,
In my opinion, Deaf Customize is causing the confict among us. If you still are curious all about it, then go to my v/blog’s for the subject, “My DeafRead Tidbit 4/27/08″ for my explanation on Deaf Customize. Thanks.
http://aslvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/my-deafread-tidbits-42708.html
deafk
Actually, my reaction, not really explanation… thanks.
deafk
A great confusion like the Tower of Babel :
DEAFREAD –> for all topics
EXTRAS –> for what?
CUSTOMIZE DEAF READ –> selective to one’s liking
DEAFSIDE –> only about ASL and Deaf Culture.
Were I the owner or one of human editors, my aggregator
would look like as follows:
DEAFREAD –> for all topics
DEAFSIDE –> Cochlear Implant topics
DEAF people are still deaf no matter what? with or without CI and oral… PEACE!!!
Great idea!!
such clever use of ‘internet-space’ especially for Deaf people, and esp. in a time where we are so spread out across the nation ~ and hey, across the world.
May 12th? Today is May 12th. I hope you are keeping your words. We look forward to DeafSide!
Judging from those comments posted hereby, I would think that the name DeafCenter seems to be more favored than DeafSide. And Jenny has mentioned a slightly different name: DeafCenter.info. Would DeafCenter.net be also more acceptable?
Let’s hope that those panelists would be given a chance to rename the not-so-great name of DeafSide. DeafCenter name would suggest an aura of authority and information to those who may be out seeking some information on how to raise their deaf children the best way possible (which is to encourage and support their acquaintance of ASL and to communicate in ASL with them).
Dean
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[...] DeafSide, DeafRead new offshoot, garners mixed feelings. A Deaf specific aggregator that is devoid of hum-hallelujahs to the CI, AVT and The Oral Method, would be a welcome sight indeed. I don’t need yet another site devoted to solving tinnitus, where to get the latest frequencies, how to live with sound, or yet another meaningless debate about how the CI is changing deaf lives for the better. [...]