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	<title>Comments on: AGBell plaque: political suppression at NTID</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Sandman</title>
		<link>http://www.ythree.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-4586</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess Frisina isn&#039;t anyone&#039;s favorite choice. That&#039;s okay by me. I&#039;m a Gallaudet alumni, and I think NTIDers are the people best qualified to make suggestions. I merely wanted to point out that we don&#039;t  need to name EVERY SINGLE building in the United States after Clerc! I also was trying to make a larger point: name the building after someone who is/was connected with NTID. The owner of this blog could probably come up with twenty names on his own. 

Jean, 

I said, &quot;not all are deaf, but they all had connections/ties to NTID.&quot;  I know Davila and Golladay are deaf (and Gallaudet alumni as well!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess Frisina isn&#8217;t anyone&#8217;s favorite choice. That&#8217;s okay by me. I&#8217;m a Gallaudet alumni, and I think NTIDers are the people best qualified to make suggestions. I merely wanted to point out that we don&#8217;t  need to name EVERY SINGLE building in the United States after Clerc! I also was trying to make a larger point: name the building after someone who is/was connected with NTID. The owner of this blog could probably come up with twenty names on his own. </p>
<p>Jean, </p>
<p>I said, &#8220;not all are deaf, but they all had connections/ties to NTID.&#8221;  I know Davila and Golladay are deaf (and Gallaudet alumni as well!).</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Boutcher</title>
		<link>http://www.ythree.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-4583</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Boutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post Scriptum:

Sandman:

Dr. Davila is deaf.</description>
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<p>Sandman:</p>
<p>Dr. Davila is deaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Boutcher</title>
		<link>http://www.ythree.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-4582</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Boutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandman:

Dr. Robert Frisina? Non, jamais de la vie!  Audistically,  he told my former school superintendent Ambrosen that he would found the NTID to surpass Gallaudet College within 20 years in that he was not happy about something in GU&#039;s Audiology Department. Himself specialising in orthoepy, Frisina was (has been [?])  affiliated with AGBell.  

I cannot comment on Castle mentioned in your comment because I do not know him.  I knew Loy Golloday. He was a Clerc scholar and used to teach at the American School for the Deaf for many years and was a poet..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandman:</p>
<p>Dr. Robert Frisina? Non, jamais de la vie!  Audistically,  he told my former school superintendent Ambrosen that he would found the NTID to surpass Gallaudet College within 20 years in that he was not happy about something in GU&#8217;s Audiology Department. Himself specialising in orthoepy, Frisina was (has been [?])  affiliated with AGBell.  </p>
<p>I cannot comment on Castle mentioned in your comment because I do not know him.  I knew Loy Golloday. He was a Clerc scholar and used to teach at the American School for the Deaf for many years and was a poet..</p>
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		<title>By: Deaf Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.ythree.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-4581</link>
		<dc:creator>Deaf Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puhleez!  Leave Frisina and Castle out of names honoring.....they do NOT deserve it after all the audistic oppression for many years.

Dr. Frisina and I used to have discussions.  He wondered how Deaf can have more scholarship (the brain that works in his thinking of how deaf should improve)  I told him that deaf can learn better using ASL.  Oralism does not work.  

As for Castle,  he can take hike!  He is like wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing trying to sneak in audism and the Bell plaque.

Loy Golladay... I loved him and he was special guy at NTID.  Same for Curtis Robbins and others down the years.   Bob Davilia is cool, too.   They are the right candidates for the naming.

To enlighten on Dr. Hurwitz,  his hands are probably tied in regards to Hearing and Speech Association,  AGBAD and other audistic organizations.   His sister-in-law is the principal of oral school in St. Louis....so someone has to deprogram him from  oralism world.   He is nice guy but his heart is in wrong place.

To be blunt, I knew Alan for many years. I learned leadership pointers from him,  but of course, I am not  oralist anymore. i chose my deaf identity in deafhood as well as keep my faith in ASL and Deaf Culture.  This is where I belong.

Like some others recommended  &quot;NTID ALUMNI HALL&quot;,  I am in favor of that at this stage.

=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puhleez!  Leave Frisina and Castle out of names honoring&#8230;..they do NOT deserve it after all the audistic oppression for many years.</p>
<p>Dr. Frisina and I used to have discussions.  He wondered how Deaf can have more scholarship (the brain that works in his thinking of how deaf should improve)  I told him that deaf can learn better using ASL.  Oralism does not work.  </p>
<p>As for Castle,  he can take hike!  He is like wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing trying to sneak in audism and the Bell plaque.</p>
<p>Loy Golladay&#8230; I loved him and he was special guy at NTID.  Same for Curtis Robbins and others down the years.   Bob Davilia is cool, too.   They are the right candidates for the naming.</p>
<p>To enlighten on Dr. Hurwitz,  his hands are probably tied in regards to Hearing and Speech Association,  AGBAD and other audistic organizations.   His sister-in-law is the principal of oral school in St. Louis&#8230;.so someone has to deprogram him from  oralism world.   He is nice guy but his heart is in wrong place.</p>
<p>To be blunt, I knew Alan for many years. I learned leadership pointers from him,  but of course, I am not  oralist anymore. i chose my deaf identity in deafhood as well as keep my faith in ASL and Deaf Culture.  This is where I belong.</p>
<p>Like some others recommended  &#8220;NTID ALUMNI HALL&#8221;,  I am in favor of that at this stage.</p>
<p>=)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Sandman</title>
		<link>http://www.ythree.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-4580</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as we should honor Clerc, let&#039;s not rush around naming everything after him. When the time comes, why not honor someone who REALLY did something for or related to NTID, rather than Bell, Clerc, or some other historical figure? 

Off the top of my head: Frisina, Castle, Golladay, Davila... not all are deaf, but they all had connections/ties to NTID. NTID alumni and faculty could probably come up with a more comprehensive list of names than I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as we should honor Clerc, let&#8217;s not rush around naming everything after him. When the time comes, why not honor someone who REALLY did something for or related to NTID, rather than Bell, Clerc, or some other historical figure? </p>
<p>Off the top of my head: Frisina, Castle, Golladay, Davila&#8230; not all are deaf, but they all had connections/ties to NTID. NTID alumni and faculty could probably come up with a more comprehensive list of names than I could.</p>
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